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03/20/2012 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:04:24 PM Presentation: the Federal Health Law and Alaska: What You Need to Know.
03:37:47 PM Overview: Health Care
04:52:34 PM Adjourn
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- "The Federal Health Law and Alaska: What You
Need to Know" by Christy Herrera, Director,
Health & Human Services Task Force ALEC
- Overview of Health Care by Commissioner
Hultberg, Dept. of Administration
- Overview of Health Care by Commissioner Streur,
Dept. of Health & Social Services
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                         March 20, 2012                                                                                         
                           3:03 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Alan Dick, Vice Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Beth Kerttula                                                                                                    
Representative Bob Miller                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:  THE FEDERAL HEALTH LAW AND ALASKA:  WHAT YOU NEED                                                                
TO KNOW.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW:  HEALTH CARE                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTIE HERRERA, Director                                                                                                      
Health and Human Services Task Force                                                                                            
American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)                                                                                    
Washington, DC                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a PowerPoint titled, "The Federal                                                              
Health Law and Alaska:  What you need to know."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM STREUR, Commissioner                                                                                                    
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented a PowerPoint  titled "Health Care                                                             
and Fiscal Sustainability" and answered questions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BECKY HULTBERG, Commissioner                                                                                                    
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented a PowerPoint  titled "Health Care                                                             
and Fiscal Sustainability" and answered questions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WES KELLER  called the  House Health  and Social  Services                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:03   p.m.                                                               
Representatives  Keller, Seaton,  and  Dick were  present at  the                                                               
call to  order.   Representatives Herron  and Millett  arrived as                                                               
the meeting was in progress.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:   The  Federal Health  Law and  Alaska:   What you                                                             
need to know.                                                                                                                 
 Presentation:  The Federal Health Law and Alaska:  What you need                                                           
                            to know.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
3:04:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
a presentation on  "The Federal Health Law and Alaska:   What you                                                               
need to  know."  He offered  his belief that the  rising costs of                                                               
health  care were  a "huge  threat to  us, and  its spooky."   He                                                               
noted that  although anyone could  go to an emergency  room, that                                                               
cost  was  not sustainable.    He  reported that  ALEC  (American                                                               
Legislative Exchange Council) wrote  model legislation for health                                                               
care.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:07:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTIE  HERRERA,  Director,  Health  and  Human  Services  Task                                                               
Force, American  Legislative Exchange  Council (ALEC),  said that                                                               
she was  going to explain  how the PPACA (Patient  Protection and                                                               
Affordable Care  Act) would affect  Alaska.  She  displayed slide                                                               
2,  "An   Overview,"  explaining  that  she   would  address  the                                                               
individual and employer mandates,  the expansion of Medicaid, and                                                               
the health insurance  exchanges.  Moving on to  slide 3, "PPACA's                                                               
Individual  Mandate," she  defined  the individual  mandate as  a                                                               
federal  requirement  that  you purchase  health  insurance,  and                                                               
stated that  individuals who  did not comply  would be  fined the                                                               
greater of  $95 or 1  percent of their annual  income, increasing                                                               
to 2.5 percent of income in  2016.  She reported that individuals                                                               
with insurance  which did not  meet "minimum  essential coverage"                                                               
criteria would  also be subject  to fines.   She opined  that the                                                               
penalties were  not strict  enough and, as  the supply  of health                                                               
insurance had not increased enough  to meet the demand, there had                                                               
not been  resolution to the  "free rider" problem.   She reported                                                               
that  emergency  room  usage in  Massachusetts  increased  by  17                                                               
percent  after its  health insurance  mandate  went into  effect.                                                               
She pointed out that the U.S.  Supreme Court would hear six hours                                                               
of oral  argument on this  federal health  care law.   She shared                                                               
that 14  states had  passed the "Health  Care Freedom  Act" which                                                               
prohibited an individual  mandate, and she noted  that 67 percent                                                               
of Americans disapproved of the individual mandate.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:11:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER, offering  his belief  that the  individual mandate                                                               
was  "the  heart  of  ObamaCare,"  declared  that  there  was  no                                                               
incentive to  pre-purchase insurance with an  individual mandate,                                                               
as insurance  could be  purchased at  any time  and had  to cover                                                               
every pre-existing condition for an individual.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HERRERA  suggested   that  individuals   with  pre-existing                                                               
conditions could  be taken  care of  through measures  other than                                                               
the individual  mandate, including purchase of  insurance through                                                               
state  high  risk  pools,  extra  subsidies  to  purchase  health                                                               
insurance, and buying  into a state Medicaid program.   She moved                                                               
on to slide 4, "PPACA's  Employer Mandate," which stated that any                                                               
business with  more than 50  employees had to  provide government                                                               
defined benefits, or pay a fine.   She declared that states would                                                               
also be subject to this employer mandate.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:14:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA, moving on to what  she declared to be the second leg                                                               
of  the PPACA  stool,  slide 5,  "PPACA  = Skyrocketing  Medicaid                                                               
Enrollment,"  said  that  states  would  be  required  to  extend                                                               
Medicaid  to anyone  earning up  to  133 percent  of the  federal                                                               
poverty  level, the  equivalent of  an  income of  $30,000 for  a                                                               
family of  four.  She directed  attention to the map  on slide 5,                                                               
and  said that  15 states  would have  increases to  the Medicaid                                                               
roles by  30 percent, while  9 states would  experience increases                                                               
of 40 percent.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:15:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON posed  that, as  the State  of Alaska  was                                                               
currently  extending Medicaid  coverage  for 150  percent of  the                                                               
federal  poverty  level,  what  would   be  the  affect  for  the                                                               
aforementioned coverage of 133 percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA,  in response,  said that it  would be  necessary for                                                               
Alaska to  apply for a federal  waiver for matching funds  to any                                                               
funding over the 133 percent coverage.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:16:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA moved  on to slide 6, "Tightening Budgets,"  a map of                                                               
the United States which showed  the state by state percentages of                                                               
state budgets spent  on Medicaid in FY 2010.   She reported that,                                                               
although the average  state spending on Medicaid  was 17 percent,                                                               
Alaska  only spent  6  percent  of its  budget  on Medicaid,  the                                                               
fourth  lowest Medicaid  budget  in  the U.S.    She offered  her                                                               
belief  that  PPACA would  increase  the  Medicaid budget,  which                                                               
could result in budget cuts to other programs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:17:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA   reviewed  slide  7,  "The   Problem  with  Federal                                                               
Funding,"  and acknowledged  that federal  funding would  pay 100                                                               
percent of  the Medicaid expansion  costs until FY 2020,  with 90                                                               
percent funding  after that.   She said that although  this would                                                               
be  paid  through  taxes,  it  would not  cover  everyone.    She                                                               
reported  that,  nationally, 25  percent  of  the uninsured  were                                                               
eligible for Medicaid but had  not yet enrolled; however, if they                                                               
did apply,  there would not  be additional federal funding.   She                                                               
guesstimated that this  could cost about $70  million in Medicaid                                                               
expansion costs through 2020.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:19:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA,  directing attention  to  slide  8, "PPACA  =  More                                                               
Crowded ERs,"  shared that many  people had suggested a  need for                                                               
the  individual  mandate  in  PPACA   in  order  to  relieve  the                                                               
congestion  in emergency  rooms.   She  offered  her belief  that                                                               
Medicaid recipients were most often  the users of emergency rooms                                                               
for non-emergency care,  which she attributed to  the scarcity of                                                               
physicians  for Medicaid  patients due  to the  low reimbursement                                                               
rates  to doctors  from Medicaid.   She  directed attention  to a                                                               
study  about the  frequent users  of emergency  rooms, more  than                                                               
four visits  annually for non-emergency  care, and  reported that                                                               
67  percent   of  those  patients   were  Medicaid   or  Medicare                                                               
recipients.   She  reflected  on the  difficulties  of finding  a                                                               
physician, even with Medicaid coverage.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA spoke about slide  9, "PPACA = Poor Health Outcomes,"                                                               
which listed  various studies for  the lower quality of  care and                                                               
the difficulties for access of care for Medicaid patients.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:20:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA  identified slide  10, "Exchanges:   In  Theory," and                                                               
defined  a health  care exchange  as a  neutral health  insurance                                                               
market  place  for   the  buyer  to  use   the  pre-tax,  defined                                                               
contributions from an employer toward  the purchase of a personal                                                               
health  insurance  policy.    This would  allow  the  patient  to                                                               
maintain policy coverage with the  same health insurance carrier,                                                               
regardless of job situation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA  reviewed slide  11, "Exchanges:   In  Practice," and                                                               
noted  that  there  were   private  health  insurance  exchanges,                                                               
including e-health insurance.com, which gave  the buyer a list of                                                               
health care  options available.   She  summarized that  the PPACA                                                               
health insurance exchange would  subsidize the individual mandate                                                               
for  the purchase  of  health insurance  and  would impose  price                                                               
controls and standardize  benefits.  She offered  her belief that                                                               
this  could  restrict  choices   for  coverage  and  could  limit                                                               
innovation by health insurers.   She declared the Massachusetts's                                                               
Health Connector  to be a model  for the PPACA model.   This plan                                                               
determined that  only plans  of "high  quality" and  "good value"                                                               
could be  sold.  She  shared that  the annual operating  cost for                                                               
the Massachusetts  exchange was more  than $40 million,  but that                                                               
since its  inception in  2006, the annual  premiums for  a family                                                               
had only increased by $2500.   She presented that the Utah Health                                                               
Exchange model had  also provided a list of  health care options,                                                               
and that it had provided coverage for 5,500 people.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:24:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA,  providing  slide 12,  "Federal  Exchange  =  State                                                               
Exchange,"  shared that  many states  looked  to implement  state                                                               
health insurance  exchanges in lieu  of a federal solution.   She                                                               
offered her belief that many  factors pointed to the formation of                                                               
a  federal health  insurance exchange  which  would be  operated,                                                               
administered, and  paid by the  states.   She noted that  a state                                                               
health insurance  exchange had to  be approved by  the Department                                                               
of Health and  Human Services using federal  rules and standards.                                                               
She confirmed  that federal subsidies  would be proffered  to the                                                               
state exchanges.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:26:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA  indicated  slide  13,  "How  PPACA  Controls  State                                                               
Exchanges,"  which listed  the federal  regulations on  the state                                                               
exchanges,  including the  benefits, the  plans offered,  and the                                                               
preferred providers.   She explained  slide 14, "The Threat  of a                                                               
Federal Exchange?"   She opined that, although there  was not any                                                               
current funding  for federal  exchanges, Congress  had previously                                                               
funded the exchanges.   She noted that PPACA did  not mention the                                                               
offer of any subsidies to a federal exchange.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  asked if  states  were  creating health  insurance                                                               
exchanges.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:27:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA said  that 15 states had enacted  legislation for the                                                               
health insurance  exchanges, and  she opined that  the Department                                                               
of Health  and Human Services  (DHHS) had changed the  time table                                                               
for compliance.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:28:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA  assessed  slide  15,   "The  Threat  of  a  Federal                                                               
Exchange?"   She referred to  a recent  report from DHHS  that $1                                                               
billion  had   been  granted  to  states   for  health  insurance                                                               
exchanges,  with  an  additional   $150  million  for  a  federal                                                               
exchange  for coordination  of benefits,  eligibility, subsidies,                                                               
and  premiums.   She reflected  that even  more funding  could be                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:29:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA introduced slide 16,  "State Exchanges Can Strengthen                                                               
PPACA," and reported that the  federal court judge in Florida had                                                               
refused  to stop  implementation of  PPACA because  eight of  the                                                               
plaintiff  states would  continue to  implement it  regardless of                                                               
the  ruling.   She  explained  that  the federal  government  had                                                               
argued that the exchanges were critical  as they would be used to                                                               
determine support for the individual mandate in PPACA.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:30:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA,  referring to the aforementioned  $1 billion federal                                                               
grant  to states,  explained that  this funding  would expire  in                                                               
2015.    She  offered  examples of  ways  states  could  increase                                                               
revenue  for funding,  including user  fees, provider  taxes, sin                                                               
taxes, naming  rights, and reallocation  of other  funding, slide                                                               
17, "State Exchanges Can Be Costly."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:31:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA  presented  slide 18,  "Other  Considerations,"  and                                                               
spoke  about other  initial concerns  for  the health  exchanges,                                                               
which included  early adopter  risks, technological  snafus, high                                                               
costs, and other unanswered questions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA  analyzed  the  U.S.  map  on  slide  19,  "Exchange                                                               
Implementation in the States," which  depicted that 17 states had                                                               
enacted legislation for an exchange,  11 had established Exchange                                                               
planning, and 10 had not taken any action to this point.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:33:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA  relayed that  slide  20,  "Exchange Grants  in  the                                                               
States,"  depicted  the use  of  exchange  grants throughout  the                                                               
states.   She pointed  out that every  state, except  Alaska, had                                                               
accepted  the $1  million planning  grant.   She  shared that  26                                                               
states had already accepted money  to establish an exchange, with                                                               
4 states refusing the exchange grants.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:34:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HERRERA  introduced slide  21,  "Action  Stalled in  2/3  of                                                               
Exchange  States,"  and  assessed  the  progress  of  the  health                                                               
exchanges in 15  states:  West Virginia, Rhode  Island, and three                                                               
others  were  "pretty far  along;"    California had  signed  its                                                               
exchange into  law; Colorado, Illinois, Indiana,  North Carolina,                                                               
and Virginia had either enacted the exchange or its intent.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:36:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   HERRERA  moved   on   to  slide   22,   "More  States   are                                                               
Reconsidering."   Referring to the aforementioned  11 states that                                                               
had  established Exchange  planning, she  reported that  Alabama,                                                               
Mississippi, and  Arkansas had determined  to start  an Exchange,                                                               
while North  Dakota had  passed legislation  for an  exchange but                                                               
then voted against its establishment.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
^Overview:  Health Care                                                                                                       
                     Overview:  Health Care                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:37:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
an overview of health care.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  STREUR,   Commissioner,  Office  of   the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of Health  and Social  Services (DHSS),  presenting a                                                               
PowerPoint titled  "Health Care and Fiscal  Sustainability," said                                                               
that  the health  care issues  in the  State of  Alaska were  not                                                               
strictly  related  to  Medicaid,   or  state  employees,  but  to                                                               
everyone.   He referred  to slide 2,  "By 2037,  health insurance                                                               
will swallow your  entire paycheck," and noted that,  by 2037, at                                                               
the  current rate  of inflation,  the cost  of health  care would                                                               
swallow the entire household paycheck.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:40:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BECKY  HULTBERG,   Commissioner,  Office  of   the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department   of  Administration,   directing  attention   to  the                                                               
PowerPoint  titled  "Health   Care  and  Fiscal  Sustainability,"                                                               
announced slide  3, "Why  are we here?"  and explained  that this                                                               
was "a bigger picture of health  care than if you would just look                                                               
at Medicaid or one of our plans,  or even two of our plans."  She                                                               
reported that Alaska spent money  on health care plans for active                                                               
employees, retires,  Medicaid, inmates, state employees  who were                                                               
members of  union health trusts, and  state workers' compensation                                                               
claims.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HULTBERG  offered slide  4, "State  Budget:   2001 -                                                               
2010," as a  context for the remainder of the  presentation.  She                                                               
noted that state  spending for capital and  operating budgets had                                                               
doubled in  that time, an annual  rate of growth of  7.5 percent,                                                               
which included an  annual CPI (Consumer Price Index)  rate of 2.6                                                               
percent.   She declared that  there were growing wants  and needs                                                               
for state general fund dollars.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG  directed  attention to  slide  5,  "State                                                               
Revenue," which  stated that oil  revenue had  subsidized Alaska,                                                               
slide 6, "State oil production:   2001 - 2010," which graphed the                                                               
annual 5 percent  decline of oil production in  Alaska, and slide                                                               
7,  "State Health  Care Spend:  2001 -  2011," which  showed that                                                               
health care  spending had doubled  in the last decade,  an annual                                                               
increase  of 8  percent, whereas  annual inflation  was only  2.6                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG summarized  slide  8,  "State health  care                                                               
spend," which  plotted the amounts  spent for health care  to the                                                               
aforementioned plans,  and estimated  that 25  percent of  the $2                                                               
billion health care dollars were paid by the State of Alaska.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:44:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HULTBERG indicated slide  9, "Where does our current                                                               
path  lead?" She  declared that,  should the  increase in  health                                                               
care cost  continue at a  9 percent rate,  it would double  to $4                                                               
billion by  2020.  She pointed  out that this did  not include an                                                               
anticipated increase in  Medicaid or a boom in  the state retiree                                                               
plan population.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:45:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   STREUR  clarified   that  slide   10,  "Challenge:                                                               
Medicaid" did  not reflect  any increase  to Medicaid  cost under                                                               
PPAPC.   He stated that  the projected cost increase  was founded                                                               
on  the current  growth  history while  implementing some  recent                                                               
program  changes.   He  declared  "we  are  trying to  bend  that                                                               
curve."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:46:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR, furnishing slide 11,  "AK DHSS 10- year plan                                                               
operating budget," projected the  FY2013 Department of Health and                                                               
Social Services  (DHSS) budget  to be  $2.6 billion,  the largest                                                               
department budget  in the state.   He projected that,  in FY2022,                                                               
the DHSS  budget would be  $6.6 billion.   He said  that although                                                               
the cost of  PPACA to Alaska was unknown, there  was a projection                                                               
for  35,000 new  enrollees in  the state,  at a  cost of  between                                                               
$6600 and $17,000 per recipient.   He shared that the non-service                                                               
related  costs for  increasing the  Medicaid  enrollees was  also                                                               
unknown.   He observed that  the population of Alaska  was aging,                                                               
and that public assistance could be increasing.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR reviewed slide  12, "Medicaid direct services                                                               
Beneficiaries  and  expenditures," and  noted  that  there was  a                                                               
continual  increase   to  the  number   of  enrollees,   and  the                                                               
subsequent cost, for  Medicaid.  He reported that  there was more                                                               
access and utilization of health care.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:49:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HULTBERG  called attention to slide  13, "Challenge:                                                               
PERS/TRS," which charted the projected  growth for the retirement                                                               
system.  She declared this to  be the largest plan managed by the                                                               
Department  of Administration  (DOA).   She  noted  that, as  the                                                               
retirement  system  was  growing,  it was  a  difficult  plan  to                                                               
manage;  as most  health  plans  were dynamic  in  response to  a                                                               
changing market,  the Alaska retirement  plan was  safeguarded by                                                               
the  diminishment clause  in the  Alaska State  Constitution, and                                                               
consequently, changes were rare and often contested in court.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG   selected  slide  14,   "Retiree  medical                                                               
expense growth," which depicted  two areas, other than population                                                               
growth, that influenced  medical expense growth.   She noted that                                                               
the  medical cost  per member  had increased  5.4 percent  in the                                                               
prior year.   She  expressed concern  that there  had been  a 4.3                                                               
percent decrease in  utilization of services, but  an increase of                                                               
10 percent in provider costs.   She stated that utilization would                                                               
not  decrease indefinitely;  therefore,  it  was imperative  that                                                               
provider costs not increase at this same rate.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR  considered slide  15, "Controlled  growth in                                                               
Medicaid,"  and  indicated  that  the  options  were  limited  to                                                               
control Medicaid growth.  He  noted that the state was restricted                                                               
in making any  changes to eligibility for Medicaid.   He reported                                                               
that  utilization controls,  such  as pharmacy  and chronic  care                                                               
management, could be focused upon  for controlling costs, whereas                                                               
the  federal government  was focused  on compliance/  anti-fraud.                                                               
He  declared  that the  opportunity  for  innovations in  service                                                               
delivery,  including chronic  care management,  adequate pricing,                                                               
generic medications,  bundling of services, and  patient centered                                                               
medical home,  could change health  care delivery in Alaska.   He                                                               
offered his belief that new  technology in and between hospitals,                                                               
and between states,  was still not fully  operational for optimum                                                               
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:56:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER asked if there was any good news.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  STREUR replied  that,  as the  status  quo was  not                                                               
acceptable,  hard  choices were  necessary  for  smarter ways  to                                                               
deliver health care.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:57:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT asked  for specific  examples of  choices                                                               
for smarter health care delivery.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR  asked that he  respond to this later  in the                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  STREUR,  directing  attention  back  to  slide  15,                                                               
declared  that  it was  necessary  to  maximize revenue,  and  he                                                               
intoned, "right  care, right time,  right place, right  amount of                                                               
money."  He  advised that DHSS had a lot  of room for improvement                                                               
in health care delivery.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:58:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR moved  on to slide 16,  "State policy actions                                                               
implemented in  FY 2011 and adopted  for FY 2012."   He said that                                                               
states were  taking different measures  to better  provide health                                                               
care,  including  adjustment   of  provider  payments,  increased                                                               
primary care  focus "at  the front door,  where they  should have                                                               
been all  the time," increased eligibility,  reviews of benefits,                                                               
and initiatives  to provide  long term care  in a  more strategic                                                               
manner.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:00:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   STREUR,   reflecting   on  slide   17,   "Medicaid                                                               
Services," said that  it was tough to  determine whether services                                                               
would be  mandatory or optional.   Addressing  optional services,                                                               
he declared  that the reduction or  elimination of transportation                                                               
services  would affect  the 60  percent of  the state  population                                                               
which  was  off  the  road  system.    He  noted  that  inpatient                                                               
psychiatry  for  patients   under  21  years  of   age  was  very                                                               
important.   He  stated that  health care  in Alaska  was a  good                                                               
package, but not a super generous package.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:02:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HULTBERG  presented slide 18, "Controlled  growth in                                                               
AlaskaCare" and  explained the costs  associated with  each plan.                                                               
She  indicated the  AlaskaCare retiree  plan, and  said that  any                                                               
plan  changes  to  retirees  had  to be  a  net  benefit  to  the                                                               
retirees, or  be offset  by enhancements.   She stated  that this                                                               
had to be managed the same  as any other health plan, taking into                                                               
consideration the  many changing variables  in health care.   She                                                               
opined that preventive  care should be covered in  this plan, but                                                               
that it was not.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:04:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG,  in  response to  Representative  Seaton,                                                               
said that comprehensive changes could  be made to the whole plan,                                                               
or  the  state  could  either  offer a  side  by  side  plan  for                                                               
selection  of various  coverages,  or a  package  of benefits  to                                                               
purchase.   She  opined that,  although most  retirees would  not                                                               
select a package to purchase, the  state was going to explore all                                                               
three options  with the goal  to provide  a health plan  with the                                                               
best quality care  foremost.  She questioned  whether the current                                                               
plan  promoted wellness  and  health.   She  declared  a need  to                                                               
manage the plan  in a sustainable way because  of the significant                                                               
impacts to the state's long term fiscal situation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked  if a package of  health care options                                                               
was  available on  a pilot  plan basis,  in order  to review  its                                                               
efficacy, yet not require a full plan amendment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:06:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG   replied  that   the  concept   had  been                                                               
discussed, but  that DOA had  not yet spoken with  the Department                                                               
of Law.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON expressed his  concern for the necessity of                                                               
to  have  a program  in  place  for  a  while, before  you  could                                                               
determine its effectiveness.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG stated  her  agreement  with this  option.                                                               
She  opined  that  the  likelihood of  an  optional  package  for                                                               
purchase  would be  selected by  those already  taking pro-active                                                               
measures for health.   She expressed the need  to enlist retirees                                                               
who were  not actively managing  their own health.   She declared                                                               
that the challenge  was not only to make the  plan available, but                                                               
to ensure that there was an  incentive for those who did not seek                                                               
preventive care to now do it.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON suggested  that "a  real good  deal" could                                                               
sometimes motivate more effectively than a mandated plan change.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HULTBERG reported that  some plans, in jurisdictions                                                               
other than Alaska, actually paid  their members to participate in                                                               
primary care.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:09:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER declared  that it  was  necessary to  come up  with                                                               
ideas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:09:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   HULTBERG,  returning   attention   to  slide   18,                                                               
discussed the  AlaskaCare active  plan, which covered  about 6200                                                               
state  employees, and  stated that,  other than  eligibility, the                                                               
DOA had  many options  to make  adjustments to  the plan  for any                                                               
changes in  cost or quality.   She moved on to  Union Trusts, and                                                               
stated that  the majority  of State of  Alaska employees  were in                                                               
this category.   She reported  that this payment  was negotiated,                                                               
based on  the premium  cost for AlaskaCare  members.   She stated                                                               
that the State  of Alaska did not provide the  coverage for Union                                                               
Trusts, and  that limited the controls  placed on the plan.   She                                                               
discussed  Political subdivisions,  which were  PERS/TRS retirees                                                               
inherited  into  the retiree  plan.    She  declared this  to  be                                                               
significant, as encouragement for  wellness and healthy behaviors                                                               
while active  employees resulted in healthier  retirees; however,                                                               
as the State  of Alaska did not manage the  health care plans for                                                               
political  subdivisions, there  was  no control  of the  wellness                                                               
plans, yet the state had to then inherit this group as retirees.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:11:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG,  in  response to  Representative  Seaton,                                                               
explained  that the  asterisks on  slide 18  denoted areas  which                                                               
allowed  controls  of  the   variable,  though  "not  necessarily                                                               
straightforward."   She  noted that  the diminishment  clause for                                                               
the  AlaskaCare  retiree plan  and  the  premiums for  the  Union                                                               
Trusts both allowed limited controls.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:12:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  STREUR  called  attention  to  slide  19,  "Payment                                                               
comparisons,"  comparing the  costs of  Medicaid and  Medicare in                                                               
Alaska  to   other  plans   throughout  the   Pacific  Northwest,                                                               
including Washington, North  Dakota, and Idaho.   Noting that the                                                               
cost of Alaska  Commercial Mean payments for  high level, complex                                                               
office visits  was far  more than  the cost  in other  states, he                                                               
clarified that it  was difficult to pinpoint  because the various                                                               
insurance payment systems often bundled  rates.  He reported that                                                               
the  Medicaid  population  could  be more  difficult  to  manage,                                                               
because  of  missed   appointments,  non-compliance  with  doctor                                                               
orders,  and other  concerns; hence,  Alaska Medicaid  maintained                                                               
"ready and  open access  to care."   He  pointed out  that Alaska                                                               
payment for obstetrical care was good.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:14:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   HULTBERG   moved   on  to   slide   20,   "Payment                                                               
comparisons:  by procedure,"  which compared  costs of  physician                                                               
fees between the  Seattle area and the Anchorage  area.  Although                                                               
these   procedures  had   significant  cost   differentials,  she                                                               
reported  that  there were  other  procedures  with even  greater                                                               
discrepancies.   She  stated  this  to be  a  core  area of  cost                                                               
drivers which  needed to  be addressed.   Even though  Alaska was                                                               
deemed to be more expensive,  this cost variance for compensation                                                               
was problematic.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER suggested the necessity  for patient incentives, and                                                               
"empowering  the  market forces  to  be  able  again to  have  an                                                               
effect."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HULTBERG  considered slide  21, "The hidden  cost of                                                               
health care,"  and stated that,  as health  care costs grew  at a                                                               
greater  rate than  other  services, it  was  crowding out  other                                                               
state  investments, such  as roads,  public safety,  and schools.                                                               
She  declared  the necessity  of  maintaining  a healthy  balance                                                               
among the state's obligations.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:18:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR directed attention  to slide 23, "Innovations                                                               
in  service delivery/payment,"  stating that,  although he  would                                                               
speak  about Medicaid,  much  of it  also  applied to  commercial                                                               
health care.   He opined  that patient centered medical  home was                                                               
bringing  patient  care management  back  into  the primary  care                                                               
arena, which he called "effective  steerage for right care, right                                                               
time, right place."  He  applauded the DHSS relationship with its                                                               
tribal health partners, declaring  them to be innovative leaders.                                                               
He declared that the Alaska  Medicaid program benefited from this                                                               
relationship,  as every  tribal  member who  received  care in  a                                                               
tribal facility  was reimbursed at  100 percent from  the federal                                                               
government, saving Alaska's general  fund dollars.  He emphasized                                                               
the difficulty for care in rural  areas, and he lauded the tribal                                                               
health program for  filling in this void.  He  offered his belief                                                               
that Medicaid  services also needed  to be bundled, as  this most                                                               
often  resulted  in  lower  rates.     He  declared  that  better                                                               
integration of behavioral health and  primary care services was a                                                               
necessity  for  better  treatment.     He  spoke  about  pay  for                                                               
performance and  centers of excellence,  the need to  review what                                                               
worked  and then  only  pay for  that.   He  explained that  more                                                               
observation  during  utilization   reviews  would  control  which                                                               
provided services  were offered.   He stated "the closer  to home                                                               
we  are,  the better  we  are"  and  he  touted the  benefits  of                                                               
community based long term care.   He affirmed the need for better                                                               
management  of   chronic  care  and  disease   states  to  ensure                                                               
effective programs that  guaranteed the proper care,  in order to                                                               
decrease the  number of  emergency room  visits.   He established                                                               
the  necessity  for  maximizing  the  Medicare  reimbursement  by                                                               
better managing those who were dual eligible.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:24:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG,  addressing  slide  24,  "Innovations  in                                                               
service delivery  /payment," stated  that AlaskaCare  was seeking                                                               
low cost alternatives  and, as the State of Alaska  paid about 25                                                               
percent  of the  total  health care  expenditures  in the  state,                                                               
better  leverage with  collective purchasing  power.   She shared                                                               
considerations  for the  option of  expanded travel  benefits, as                                                               
well as the creation of  Centers of Excellence for bundled health                                                               
care services.   She reported  that an employee  wellness program                                                               
was being  developed.  She  indicated that DOA would  continue to                                                               
aggressively pursue contractual  discounts, following its success                                                               
with  this  in  FY2011.     She  endorsed  to  align  contracting                                                               
strategies  around  innovative care  for  delivery  models.   She                                                               
expressed  her goal  of the  provider community  bringing forward                                                               
lower cost innovative  ideas for care improvement.   She declared                                                               
that the State  of Alaska was working to  develop a comprehensive                                                               
health  management strategy  that  optimally  managed health  for                                                               
quality and cost.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:27:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   HULTBERG  summarized   slide   25,  "The   State's                                                               
approach," stating  that the challenge  was to lower the  rate of                                                               
growth for  health care spending  to a sustainable  level, which,                                                               
she surmised, was  at, or slightly above, the  rate of inflation.                                                               
She stated  a desire  to work  cooperatively with  the providers,                                                               
the stakeholders,  and the legislature for  creative solutions to                                                               
high-quality, cost-effective health care delivery in Alaska.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:28:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT asked when  preventative health care plans                                                               
for retirees would be implemented.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG,  in  response, relayed  that  this  would                                                               
possibly be addressed later in the year.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:29:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  whether  the  lack of  occupational                                                               
licensing  for paraprofessionals  prevented  programs from  being                                                               
implemented.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  STREUR  expressed  agreement, offering  the  tribal                                                               
partnership as a good example.   He noted that a community health                                                               
aide was  the entry contact  who meted out and  scheduled service                                                               
to  the necessary  level  of care.   He  declared  that too  much                                                               
insistence  was   placed  on  seeing  a   physician,  when  other                                                               
professionals  were sufficient  in  the majority  of  cases.   He                                                               
allowed  that the  health industry  was  seriously reviewing  the                                                               
roles of these adjunct staff.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON emphasized  that the  health industry  had                                                               
never   suggested  a   lower  level   of  health   care  contact,                                                               
illustrated   by  the   failure  of   various  naturopath   bills                                                               
introduced in  the Alaska State  Legislature.  He opined  that it                                                               
would be necessary for DHSS to implement this change.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:35:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER STREUR replied that there  was not any choice but to                                                               
partner with the  providers for a more  efficient, more effective                                                               
way  to provide  health care.    He shared  that a  long list  of                                                               
providers had requested discussion about this topic.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:36:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT shared that  it would take re-education of                                                               
patients  to  break with  medical  inclinations,  as well.    She                                                               
lauded  the  tribal health  care  program  for its  education  of                                                               
patients to a better understanding of the necessary care level.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:38:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  STREUR expressed  his agreement  with the  need for                                                               
the state to  provide better patient education  to understand the                                                               
various levels of health care  delivery.  He praised the Canadian                                                               
health  care  system for  its  scheduling  to health  care  need,                                                               
noting that  the Canadians had  a better mortality rate  than the                                                               
U.S.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:39:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  suggested  a  need  for  the  elimination  of  the                                                               
confusion for  the budget review  process.  He  expressed concern                                                               
"that we  can't pay for the  sickest and the neediest  because of                                                               
the  utter turmoil,  because everything  had been  turned on  its                                                               
head."  He declared that it  was difficult for the legislature to                                                               
recognize the needs and where the  money was going, and then look                                                               
for the "places where we can  make a difference."  He suggested a                                                               
presentation  to   the  providers  sharing  that   DHSS  and  the                                                               
legislature  were  working  together  to  better  understand  the                                                               
budget and review process.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:41:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HULTBERG   said  that  the  legislature   had  more                                                               
visibility  regarding  Medicaid  than  the  other  areas  in  the                                                               
budget.   She reported that DOA  did not have a  health care line                                                               
item  in the  budget because  health care  costs were  built into                                                               
personnel costs; consequently, there  was not specific visibility                                                               
around employee  and retiree  health care cost.   She  pointed to                                                               
the  magnitude  of  overall  spending  as  a  more  comprehensive                                                               
picture of  the health  care demands  on the  state.   She agreed                                                               
that  Medicaid was  "the  lion's share,"  and  would most  likely                                                               
become  a  greater  percentage  of health  care  spending.    She                                                               
offered her belief that it was  necessary to review all the areas                                                               
of  health care  spending, even  though these  areas were  not as                                                               
visible as  Medicaid.  She  offered for  DOA to give  health care                                                               
presentations about costs and cost management.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:44:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HERRERA, in response to  Chair Keller, declared her agreement                                                               
with all the solutions offered by  DOA and DHSS, although she was                                                               
ambivalent regarding  pay for  performance for  Medicaid doctors.                                                               
She reported  that nationally  almost 50  percent of  doctors did                                                               
not accept  new Medicaid  patients.   Directing attention  to the                                                               
testimony  that  doctors  did   not  quickly  accept  new  health                                                               
technology, she opined  that the addition of  pay for performance                                                               
might  further limit  access to  care.   She expressed  agreement                                                               
with  the suggestions  for utilization  review for  radiology and                                                               
prescription drugs.   She noted that it was  necessary to balance                                                               
access for  care with  cost; that home  and community  based care                                                               
would trigger a  federal match; that managed care had  to be done                                                               
"the right way", opining that  fee for service contracts with one                                                               
company were  not the solution;  and that  occupational licensing                                                               
would  ensure  that  patients could  connect  with  providers  of                                                               
necessary  services,  even those  not  accepted  by the  "medical                                                               
cartels."  She reported on  an agreement for occupational license                                                               
reciprocity,  when   charity  care  was  also   offered,  between                                                               
Tennessee and Illinois.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:48:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON, referencing  an article regarding salaried                                                               
positions, declared  a need for  adequate salary  and motivation.                                                               
He  suggested pilot  programs for  salaried medical  personnel in                                                               
order  to allow  them to  focus  solely on  medicine.   Directing                                                               
attention  to  an  earlier  reference by  Ms.  Herrera  about  an                                                               
increase  in  medical premiums  of  $2500  in Massachusetts  from                                                               
2006  -  2011, he  declared  that  his  health care  premium  for                                                               
private insurance, notwithstanding an  increase to his deductible                                                               
amounts, had  risen that  much in  one year,  much less  than the                                                               
referenced  Massachusetts increase  for five  years.   He offered                                                               
his belief that  the health exchange could  dramatically slow the                                                               
increase of insurance premiums.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:52:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services   Standing  Committee  meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 4:52 p.m.                                                                                                          

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Christie Herrera's Alaska Presentation.ppt HHSS 3/20/2012 3:00:00 PM
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